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		<title>By: Favorite Programming Quotes 2010</title>
		<link>http://johnleach.co.uk/words/497/advertising-and-ad-blocking/comment-page-1#comment-88409</link>
		<dc:creator>Favorite Programming Quotes 2010</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jun 2010 18:27:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Advertising is mind pollution. John Leach [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Mark Somerville (@_Spakman)</title>
		<link>http://johnleach.co.uk/words/497/advertising-and-ad-blocking/comment-page-1#comment-80305</link>
		<dc:creator>Mark Somerville (@_Spakman)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Mar 2010 18:55:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;ve never considered advertising like that. I&#039;ve never used an ad-blocker because if I like the content, I saw that as the way for paying for it.

However, I&#039;ve long believed that &#039;general&#039; news is absolute poison. On the off-chance you don&#039;t think that, I recommend reading &#039;Risk: The Science and Politics of Fear&#039; by Dan Gardner. It basically confirmed everything I had believed for a while but went to *much* more detail.

I know don&#039;t know why I hadn&#039;t thought the same way about advertising - I guess it&#039;s because I think it has overall a less negative impact on society and me then news.

I think this post might have changed my opinion about ad-blocking. Cool!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve never considered advertising like that. I&#8217;ve never used an ad-blocker because if I like the content, I saw that as the way for paying for it.</p>
<p>However, I&#8217;ve long believed that &#8216;general&#8217; news is absolute poison. On the off-chance you don&#8217;t think that, I recommend reading &#8216;Risk: The Science and Politics of Fear&#8217; by Dan Gardner. It basically confirmed everything I had believed for a while but went to *much* more detail.</p>
<p>I know don&#8217;t know why I hadn&#8217;t thought the same way about advertising &#8211; I guess it&#8217;s because I think it has overall a less negative impact on society and me then news.</p>
<p>I think this post might have changed my opinion about ad-blocking. Cool!</p>
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		<title>By: Latest Advertising news &#8211; Apple&#8217;s video advertising options detailed in patent application</title>
		<link>http://johnleach.co.uk/words/497/advertising-and-ad-blocking/comment-page-1#comment-79825</link>
		<dc:creator>Latest Advertising news &#8211; Apple&#8217;s video advertising options detailed in patent application</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 10:24:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Advertising and ad blocking &#124; John Leach&#8217;s Blog [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Online Revenue Business Models &#124; Ezebis</title>
		<link>http://johnleach.co.uk/words/497/advertising-and-ad-blocking/comment-page-1#comment-77841</link>
		<dc:creator>Online Revenue Business Models &#124; Ezebis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 02:12:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] pay for content with no advertising    Another post by John Leach called &#8216;Advertising and ad blocking&#8217; who talks about advertising&#8217;s moral &amp; psychological affect:  Advertising is mind [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] pay for content with no advertising    Another post by John Leach called &#8216;Advertising and ad blocking&#8217; who talks about advertising&#8217;s moral &amp; psychological affect:  Advertising is mind [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tim</title>
		<link>http://johnleach.co.uk/words/497/advertising-and-ad-blocking/comment-page-1#comment-77757</link>
		<dc:creator>Tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 12:54:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Give us a tenner, please. In return, I give you this reply.</description>
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		<title>By: Pemo Theodore</title>
		<link>http://johnleach.co.uk/words/497/advertising-and-ad-blocking/comment-page-1#comment-77697</link>
		<dc:creator>Pemo Theodore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 02:50:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree advertising is mind pollution &amp; I think that it is lazy to depend on an advertising revenue model.  Web business could get creative about revenue models and that would immediately get people interested.  It is mind numbing for most of us who have had advertising trying to grab our attention all our lives.  Over it!  But interested in new and innovative business models.  Where has all the creativity gone?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree advertising is mind pollution &amp; I think that it is lazy to depend on an advertising revenue model.  Web business could get creative about revenue models and that would immediately get people interested.  It is mind numbing for most of us who have had advertising trying to grab our attention all our lives.  Over it!  But interested in new and innovative business models.  Where has all the creativity gone?</p>
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		<title>By: Antony</title>
		<link>http://johnleach.co.uk/words/497/advertising-and-ad-blocking/comment-page-1#comment-77685</link>
		<dc:creator>Antony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Mar 2010 01:53:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;You might argue that advertising creates value – some viewers choose to buy when otherwise they wouldn’t have&quot;

This indeed is a fallacy. Some viewers choose to buy when otherwise they *would have spent that same money on something else*, and with better judgment. The money the advertising company takes in, it takes away from another business. There is no creation of value from advertising. Actually, a loss, because the lured buyer could have gotten more value from their money by taking the time to choose how to spend it, unbiased.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;You might argue that advertising creates value – some viewers choose to buy when otherwise they wouldn’t have&#8221;</p>
<p>This indeed is a fallacy. Some viewers choose to buy when otherwise they *would have spent that same money on something else*, and with better judgment. The money the advertising company takes in, it takes away from another business. There is no creation of value from advertising. Actually, a loss, because the lured buyer could have gotten more value from their money by taking the time to choose how to spend it, unbiased.</p>
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		<title>By: ⬡</title>
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		<dc:creator>⬡</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 23:10:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So we should only advertise food and shelter?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So we should only advertise food and shelter?</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
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		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 21:26:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kev: I was a little unclear in my dramatic summary &quot;advertising is mind pollution.  What I&#039;m actually saying is that advertising viewed by people who are not interested in it is an external cost - much like pollution.

These external costs are currently huge, as most adverts are not relevant - and we&#039;re forced to bear them (unless we use adblockers :)

Perhaps as advertisers get cleverer we&#039;ll see adverts we&#039;re more interested in, but until every advert I see is selling me something I really need (or want to experience) and can afford, then it&#039;s pollution.

Anyway, to get this accurate, advertisers will need to keep collecting more and more personal data about us, invading our privacy.

And then, if every advert I see is something I need and can afford, I&#039;ll quickly run out of money, so then no adverts are useful to me. Except perhaps debt management services.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kev: I was a little unclear in my dramatic summary &#8220;advertising is mind pollution.  What I&#8217;m actually saying is that advertising viewed by people who are not interested in it is an external cost &#8211; much like pollution.</p>
<p>These external costs are currently huge, as most adverts are not relevant &#8211; and we&#8217;re forced to bear them (unless we use adblockers :)</p>
<p>Perhaps as advertisers get cleverer we&#8217;ll see adverts we&#8217;re more interested in, but until every advert I see is selling me something I really need (or want to experience) and can afford, then it&#8217;s pollution.</p>
<p>Anyway, to get this accurate, advertisers will need to keep collecting more and more personal data about us, invading our privacy.</p>
<p>And then, if every advert I see is something I need and can afford, I&#8217;ll quickly run out of money, so then no adverts are useful to me. Except perhaps debt management services.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://johnleach.co.uk/words/497/advertising-and-ad-blocking/comment-page-1#comment-77621</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 20:07:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>From your twitter comment, it seems like you don&#039;t have any issues with well targeted advertising.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>From your twitter comment, it seems like you don&#8217;t have any issues with well targeted advertising.</p>
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		<title>By: Kev</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 19:12:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John, yeah I guess you were talking mainly about advertising on websites (as it by and large exists at the moment) but I was trying to make a point that a blanket statement like &quot;advertising is mind pollution&quot; is a bit silly. You liked those gig flyers we had, for instance.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John, yeah I guess you were talking mainly about advertising on websites (as it by and large exists at the moment) but I was trying to make a point that a blanket statement like &#8220;advertising is mind pollution&#8221; is a bit silly. You liked those gig flyers we had, for instance.</p>
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		<title>By: Donation Networks to fight Advertising. &#171; Prove that real but not virtual</title>
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		<dc:creator>Donation Networks to fight Advertising. &#171; Prove that real but not virtual</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 18:43:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] argument. And people who bear counter arguments have good points to back theirs too. I came across this interesting article that introduce such good arguments. And one idea really made a new idea spark in my mind. But [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] argument. And people who bear counter arguments have good points to back theirs too. I came across this interesting article that introduce such good arguments. And one idea really made a new idea spark in my mind. But [...]</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
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		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 17:54:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Miles: Advertising is really not regulated seriously. Most advertising (certainly most corporate advertising) suggests all kind of ridiculous things are true.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Miles: Advertising is really not regulated seriously. Most advertising (certainly most corporate advertising) suggests all kind of ridiculous things are true.</p>
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		<title>By: strowger</title>
		<link>http://johnleach.co.uk/words/497/advertising-and-ad-blocking/comment-page-1#comment-77593</link>
		<dc:creator>strowger</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 17:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Money geek talk: Micropayments is *really hard*. A whole load of regulation is heaped on anyone offering something that looks like a payment system.

The idea of low-friction payment (&quot;unobtrusive&quot;) is not compatible with the security needed to prevent fraud.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Money geek talk: Micropayments is *really hard*. A whole load of regulation is heaped on anyone offering something that looks like a payment system.</p>
<p>The idea of low-friction payment (&#8220;unobtrusive&#8221;) is not compatible with the security needed to prevent fraud.</p>
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		<title>By: Miles Gassaway</title>
		<link>http://johnleach.co.uk/words/497/advertising-and-ad-blocking/comment-page-1#comment-77585</link>
		<dc:creator>Miles Gassaway</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 17:24:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Begging as a metaphor may not be the right fit. I&#039;m thinking that begging is going to become much more common, and &quot;harassment&quot; be dammed. Advertising, on the other hand, is incapable of getting in your face, like the beggar on the street who is in no position to care what laws may prohibit his behavior. Advertising is regulated on a level that actually takes user experience into account, because it must.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Begging as a metaphor may not be the right fit. I&#8217;m thinking that begging is going to become much more common, and &#8220;harassment&#8221; be dammed. Advertising, on the other hand, is incapable of getting in your face, like the beggar on the street who is in no position to care what laws may prohibit his behavior. Advertising is regulated on a level that actually takes user experience into account, because it must.</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
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		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 17:17:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andrew: all my thoughts on ad-blocking were right there in an iframe!

Seriously though, advertising is mind pollution.  An ad-blocker is like breathing apparatus for your brain.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andrew: all my thoughts on ad-blocking were right there in an iframe!</p>
<p>Seriously though, advertising is mind pollution.  An ad-blocker is like breathing apparatus for your brain.</p>
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		<title>By: Jonathan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jonathan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 17:13:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Have you heard about flattr (social micropayments)? 
http://flattr.com/beta/
The idea seems good, but it&#039;s hard to say if it is going to work.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Have you heard about flattr (social micropayments)?<br />
<a href="http://flattr.com/beta/" rel="nofollow">http://flattr.com/beta/</a><br />
The idea seems good, but it&#8217;s hard to say if it is going to work.</p>
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		<title>By: Andrew</title>
		<link>http://johnleach.co.uk/words/497/advertising-and-ad-blocking/comment-page-1#comment-77569</link>
		<dc:creator>Andrew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 17:02:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I read this looking for your thoughts on ad blocking and didn&#039;t find any.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I read this looking for your thoughts on ad blocking and didn&#8217;t find any.</p>
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		<title>By: john</title>
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		<dc:creator>john</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 16:45:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Kev: My twitter feed is nothing but advertisements for what I&#039;m doing. It&#039;s more like an index in a book in that respect.

Do you complain about the advertising in the Yellow Pages? ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Kev: My twitter feed is nothing but advertisements for what I&#8217;m doing. It&#8217;s more like an index in a book in that respect.</p>
<p>Do you complain about the advertising in the Yellow Pages? ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Kev</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kev</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 16:38:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I only read that because you adviertised it on twitter.</description>
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